i needed to be asleep an hour and a half ago goodnight

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laurelisblackcanary:

rosietwiggs:

I’m so confused by this comment?

I actually very much agree that there is a definite amount of inherent racism in today’s culture that leads to people not shipping a black and white character together. I think a better example to have used in this case would have been Barry and Iris, since people are already automatically choosing to ship Barry with Caitlyn instead, despite the fact that Caitlyn is not romantically and emotionally available, but that’s besides the point. Ultimately, if you are making the choice not to ship something, you need to always examine why you’re choosing to do so.

What confuses me here is your parallel.

Are you saying that people not shipping delicity because of internalized racism (which in SOME cases is true) is EQUAL to calling for the DEATH of a female queer character?

Or do you think that we’re saying people want her to die BECAUSE she is queer and that our anger is hypocritical because we apparently didn’t agree with the first argument (according to YOU)?

The initial argument in this post was not that people were calling for her death due to her bisexuality, but rather pointing out how problematic it is to kill off a queer character to further a straight character’s plot-line. I elaborated that it was much more serious than that, that people are calling for the death of a woman (a SISTER) to die because they have become accustomed to no more than one position of power being allotted for a female character on a show. That people are quicker to easily kill a woman rather than attempt to create more space for her.

Whatever it is you’re trying to say, it pretty much comes off as you agreeing with people who want Sara dead, especially considering your tumblr handle. I assume “the bunch” of people you’re talking about are oliciters, who you seem to have a lot of anger towards, so this also really ultimately just comes off as a lot of butt-hurt. Not really sure what you were trying to achieve, but congratulations, you’re a a gross sexist asshole.

No, sweetie.

Literally what I’m saying is, you (the collective Olicity fandom) are a bunch of hypocrites for getting butt-hurt about the racism article while having no problem boiling down Sara’s maybe death to people just wanting to erase a bi-sexual to further a straight woman.

That’s because I don’t see any rhetoric in the initial post about Sara’s importance to the show or the story that goes beyond her sexuality.

You, yourself, bring up great points about Sara being Laurel’s sister and why can’t more than one woman be in a position of power or why can’t space be made for more than one woman.

I totally agree with that. However, I’m not seeing nearly as much, or any for that matter, hand-wringing and teeth-gnashing over the people that insist on Laurel never being Team Arrow because Felicity was there first. I don’t see a lot of angst when people say “Why is Laurel even around? We have Sara and Felicity.”

(Now the new anti-Laurel movement involves making it all about Sara’s sexuality.)

Why is that? It’s because apparently it’s completely okay for you (the collective Olicity fandom) to pit everyone against Laurel but it becomes some mortal sin to actually call you out on it. 

Yup, I think the collective O/licity fandom (of whom “rosietwiggs is one of most moderate and Laurel-friendly) should start by dealing with their own exclusionary practices (e.g. the “original team Arrow” fetish and the claims that Laurel “has to earn her place” on the Team) before they start accusing other fans of wanting to get rid off a character in favour of another character. Until you acknowledge the fact that a sizeable part of your own fandom uses various (sometimes very transparent) pretexts for denying Laurel any place or function on the show, I will find the complaints about excluding Sara from the “Arrow” universe a tad hypocritical.

As I said in a previous post, nobody wants Sara to die. It is a misapprehension that has no basis in fandom reality. Sara’s death is just something that many fans expect to happen, based on their knowledge of genre conventions. Conjecturing that Sara might die in order for Laurel to take on the Black Canary mantle is not the same as wishing that a bi-sexual character should be replaced by a straight character. In fact, Sara was never MEANT to be the show’s real Black Canary, so if anyone is excluding Sara from becoming a regular character it’s the writers. If they decide to kill her off it is because they never INTENDED to let her be anything else than Laurel’s precursor. 

I’m a Laurel fan, but I would be very happy if Sara could live on and continue to play a role in Laurel’s life,  because I think that both Ollie and Laurel have lost too many loved ones already.

As for Sara’s sexuality, I feel that this issue is pretty irrelevant, at least when it comes to Laurel’s transformation into Black Canary. Sara’s bi-sexual relationship with Nyssa was not a serious attempt to portray a lesbian relationship. IMHO it was only introduced to titillate the viewers a bit and give the show a somewhat liberal sheen. I would bet a 100 dollars that Sara’s sexual preferences will not be touched upon again if she ever becomes a regular guest star. In fact, imagining or claiming that the “Arrow” writers intended Sara to be an honest or realistic portrayal of a LGBT person would IMHO be to give them too much credit. Sara being queer was just something they thought would be a cool thing, and that’s why they never took Sara’s sexual orientation really seriously. If they had, they wouldn’t have let her embark on a serious sexual relationship with Ollie when it suited their storytelling purposes. I know that bisexual men and woman go both ways, but I don’t think that they jump that easily from one relationship to another and back again.

Talking about the importance of diversity and representation in the show and how those things should not be eliminated to make way for something we already have an abundance of is not “reducing Sara to her sexuality.” There are a lot of reasons I think Sara shouldn’t die, but the idea of the first and only queer superhero being killed off for another straight one is something that is majorly wrong and that I’m not okay with.

The original post was not about how Laurel fans want Sara to die to make room for her to become the “true Black Canary.” I’m not saying that people want her to die, because I’m not sure that’s true. The problem is that people have just blatantly accepted that she needs to die in order to make room for Sara. Why aren’t Laurel fans crusading to keep Sara alive even if they want her alive for Laurel’s sake? Because it’s become accepted that she needs to die in order for Laurel’s story.

This post was not about Laurel’s transformation into the Black Canary and how Sara’s sexuality plays into it. That has nothing to do with this. This was about Sara and her sexuality and how that’s important. How the CW, a program aimed for the average young person, is representing a bisexual, feminist superheroine who is in a relationship with a woman of color. That is important. More so, in my opinion, than Laurel’s place position as the Black Canary and her relationship with Oliver. 

That doesn’t mean Laurel isn’t important to Team Arrow and that I want her gone. I never said that. If you look at my original post, I tagged it as “this was in no way meant to be an attack on Laurel’s importance or her place on Tean Arrow   i think there is a lot of good she can do by being a different connection to the law than daddy Lance   i think that if it’s handled properly she might even become a great superhero in her own right   but right now she isn’t that and Sara is and Sara is so very important”. 

I know the writers never intended for Sara to be the Black Canary, but that’s what we have right now and that’s what matters. As I said in my original post, this isn’t about “would haves” or “should haves.” It is about what we have right now and that’s Sara. That’s important. She’s important.

Did you basically just say that Sara’s "lesbian relationship" wasn’t lesbian enough to count as representation? First, she isn’t a lesbian??? She wasn’t with Nyssa because she is only attracted to women; she was with her because she loved her. Sara left when the quake happened in May; she got with Oliver in February. They were basically broken up for eight to nine months before she got with Oliver. And how can you say that her relationship/queerness will never be addressed again when Sara breaks up with Oliver and leaves with Nyssa. It was implied that they were back together and, if they’re not, they will be again. Second, you don’t get to dictate her sexuality because she “isn’t gay enough for you” or whatever. The fact is that she has been with both a man and a woman. That she is attracted to different sexes, and that is the first time we see this on mainstream television/film and, I can’t emphasize this enough, that is important.

"I know that bisexual men and woman go both ways, but I don’t think that they jump that easily from one relationship to another and back again". I’m sorry, but are you the bisexuality police? What right do you have to say what bisexual people do and don’t do? Because, by definition, I am bisexual and I have gone “jumped that easily” from one to another. Bisexual doesn’t mean you only like women right now and men right now; it means you are attracted to both sexes. It means that you fall in love with both sexes, which Sara does.

(How is Sara going from Oliver to Nyssa to Oliver to Nyssa any different from how Oliver “jumped that easily” from Laurel to Sara to Shado to Helena to McKenna to Isabel to Felicity? Why is it okay when a straight dude jumps from girl to girl but not when Sara “jumps” between the same two people who she has canonically been in love with for years?)

And finally: I don’t see what Olicity fandom has to do with the original post. I don’t see what Olicity has to do with any of this. I don’t see how Felicity came into the discussion here. I also don’t see how you even got to this whole “the collective Olicity fandom is trying to kick Laurel out of Team Arrow with this argument” because this post has nothing to do with Laurel not being in Team Arrow and, also, I’m not an Olicity shipper

But let’s take a minute to talk about how you brought Olicity and Lauriver into this. How I made a post about the importance of queer superheroes and your response was to basically reduce, boderline eliminate, Sara and her queerness from the discussion and make it about Laurel and Felicity and their relationship with Oliver. How you basically erased Sara and her bisexuality from the entire discussion to make it about the heterosexual relationships in the show. How that doesn’t matter because what really matters is what Oliver’s dick wants. 

Now ask me again why I have the problems I do.

As a second bisexual woman here, I would like to add that I found arrowfan1’s initial comment to be somewhat patronizing, but I didn’t respond to it since overall it wasn’t intended to be malicious or condescending, but I’m going to address two things right now.

  1. Having “bisexual friends” does not qualify you to talk about what is or isn’t valid bisexual representation. You are not bisexual and so you have NO PLACE in this discussion. As a bisexual woman, I can tell you, with complete honesty, that I was moved to tears when I realized that Sara was bi. Heir to the Demon was such a pivotal episode for me personally, and I still become extremely emotional when I watch it, from the relationship between Sara and Nyssa, which was done beautifully and NOT over-sexualized (how could you say it was only meant to titillate, there was ONE, mild kiss? Is two women kissing only ever about supplying sexual gratification to others? Is it SO inconceivable that that moment was about love? And how dare you erase her sexuality by calling it a lesbian relationship?) to the moment between her and her father, where he accepted her and everything about her, because Quentin just loves his daughters that much? As someone who would NEVER be accepted by her parents if I came out to them, who would most likely disown me, how DARE you try to take that away from me? YOU DO NOT HAVE A VOICE IN THIS DISCUSSION. LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO DO.
  2. Do NOT single ME out as the unusual, token “moderate and Laurel-friendly” olicity fan. Every single person I follow promotes and loves Laurel as I do. EVERY SINGLE PERSON I FOLLOW. themuslimbarbie I am sorry to mention shipping again because you are SO right. This was not a discussion about shipping and it is embarrassing that people took it in that direction, but if arrowfan1 is going to single me out as one of the only “good” olicity fans, then I feel the need to speak up and say, NO. Back up. I will not “stand apart” from my friends and peers. We all promote Laurel and want to see her succeed. Every person on my dash calls for equality in the media, for support of female characters, for more female role models. Every person on my dash works towards checking privilege and calling out racism, both blatant and internalized. This is NOT about shipping. It’s not even about a television show. This is about BECOMING BETTER. MAKING THE WORLD BETTER. And you have reduced it to a ship. So don’t single me out, because I am one of MANY who uphold these beliefs, and also happen to ship olicity. 

laurelisblackcanary - don’t talk to me with that patronizing tone again. I am a full-time working mother of FOUR children, I am not your fucking sweetie. This is a game to you, but it’s not to me, and I am fucking done putting up with this sexist bullshit. I don’t give a fuck what you ship. You talk to me that way again, you diminish a female character or her sexuality again to try to get my attention, you respond to any of my posts again just to get a rise out of me and spew hate and negativity, and I will bury you.

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fuckyeahpikacha:

a tiny crossbow and Katrina Law… you have no idea how happy this video makes me [x]

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Her royal highness, the dark lord Rosie von Twiggs, Queen of Good Smut, Protector of the Sara, Sovereign of Givin' The Ladies Their Own Autonomy, and well-versed in the ancient art of a good smackdown.

Holy shit this is the greatest thing ever.

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Felicity smiles and gently shakes her hand. “How do you do?” Thea's eyes narrow. “Are you here to kiss my brother? That's what happens with all the girls in his room.” Felicity's smile freezes. “No, I'm just here to help him study,” she manages. “So was Laurrrrellll,” Thea draws out the name, “but they just ended up kissing too.” “Uh, well, sometimes kissing is more fun than studying.” Thea's expression is doubtful. “It looked pretty gross to me.” Felicity can only nod. "Germs can be an issue."

GERMS CAN BE AN ISSUE I FUCKING CAN’T OMG

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elestiel:

GIVE ME A TITLE IN MY ASKBOX

  • QUEEN/KING OF _____???
  • PRINCESS/PRINCE OF _____???
  • EMPRESS/EMPEROR OF _____???

bonus points:

  • HEIR TO _____???
  • GOD/GODDESS OF _____???
  • OVERLORD OF _____???
  • GUARDIAN/PROTECTOR OF ____???
  • THE PATRON SAINT OF ____???
  • MASTER/MISTRESS OF ____???
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Will do! Thanks for your kindness in doing that. :)

Seriously, no prob. I didn’t think anyone would care about that, but I should have tagged it regardless.

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It’s not a huge deal. Just maybe tag comic stuff with spoilers? I totally understand the enthusiasm, though. I’m excited for the boxing glove arrow, but I’d have loved to be surprised while reading it on the page.

Also, no prob. Savior “arrow 2.5 spoilers” just in case I make ano other posts.

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It’s not a huge deal. Just maybe tag comic stuff with spoilers? I totally understand the enthusiasm, though. I’m excited for the boxing glove arrow, but I’d have loved to be surprised while reading it on the page.

That was the absolute only post I was going to make about the comics, actually.

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Really. Seriously, really. Because I’ve been writing/editing and haven’t had a chance to get the comics yet.

Oh. You really mean really.

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Spoilers. :)

REALLY FREA

REALLY???
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{Bound by Blood} by Rosietwiggs & absentlyabbie

Felicity isn’t really as surprised by the fact that Oliver Queen is the Vigilante as she is by the fact that he’s, well, a vampire.

Every time Rosie and Abbie write something, they deliver! This verse is PURE PERFECTION! Currently my favorite AU, well, AUish. This is not a multichap story, we’re getting these unconnected-not-chronological pieces, in my opinion is the coolest way of keep it fresh and interesting, just waiting to see how the relationship between Oliver and Felicity evolves, because OH-MY-GOD.. SO HOT! Check it out, it’s addictive! So addictive that I HAD to make some (hope it’s not too lame) fanart.

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THERE’S A FUCKING BOXING GLOVE ARROW IN ARROW 2.5 I AM SO FUCKING AGHJKLDBFLMD; OMG THEY DID IT I CAN’T BELIEVE IT JFC

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Anonymous said:
That sometimes you worry and get frazzled about it, but you always do really amazing things for your holidays.

Was there a first part to this anon? I’m confused?

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I’m such a dork this is for the meme omg.

Yes! THIS IS ACCURATE OK GOOD THANK.